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sf49erfan - May 22, 2008 06:11 PM (GMT)
In light of the recent ruling by the California Supreme Court; if invited would you attend a gay or lesbian wedding?

squatpuke - May 22, 2008 07:02 PM (GMT)
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no way....

Honey - May 22, 2008 07:18 PM (GMT)
DUH. What a NO brainer. Of course not! Why would I attend something I do not support? Not to mention the IMAGE of 2 same sex people fauning and smooching all over each other. BARF BAG PLEASE!!

Is this question for ReAL??

squatpuke - May 22, 2008 07:55 PM (GMT)
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I think he's attempting to find all the "shallow" peeps on the forum....

andiesmama - May 22, 2008 08:17 PM (GMT)
nope. In attending a wedding you're going in support of the union. Can't support it, don't believe in it, wont' go.

Keneke - May 22, 2008 08:25 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (andiesmama @ May 22 2008, 02:17 PM)
nope. In attending a wedding you're going in support of the union. Can't support it, don't believe in it, wont' go.

:agree:

sf49erfan - May 22, 2008 08:34 PM (GMT)
It is a serious question.

I have a friend from high school that came out a couple of years ago. He was at my wedding, so if he were to invite me to his wedding I'd really have to think long and hard about going. Am I supporting his lifestyle choice if I were to go because I am his friend?

Keneke - May 22, 2008 08:50 PM (GMT)
Yes you are supporting him.
We've declined going to weddings b/c we didn't think the couple should be getting married. We will not support them and be present as they commit their lives together. :dunno:

Sarah - May 22, 2008 09:07 PM (GMT)
No, I wouldn't want to go. Just like I wouldn't want to go watch a freind indulge in any other sin.

Honey - May 22, 2008 09:18 PM (GMT)
Friend or not, I still would not go.

squatpuke - May 22, 2008 09:27 PM (GMT)
Wedding Gift Idea

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Honey - May 22, 2008 09:31 PM (GMT)
You're a sick man, Squat. :sick:

Stringaling - May 22, 2008 11:41 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Sarah @ May 22 2008, 04:07 PM)
No, I wouldn't want to go. Just like I wouldn't want to go watch a freind indulge in any other sin.

:agree:

GutterRat - May 22, 2008 11:43 PM (GMT)
All depends on how well I knew the person. If we were just casual friends or co-workers - I doubt I would attend. If we were pretty good friends - then I would attend.

rasplundjr - May 23, 2008 02:00 AM (GMT)
One of my good friend yeah no prob, but Indiana still doesn't support same sex marriage.....



squatpuke - May 23, 2008 02:34 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Honey @ May 22 2008, 02:31 PM)
You're a sick man, Squat. :sick:

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what?

:dunno:

hope4today - May 23, 2008 09:03 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (GutterRat @ May 22 2008, 06:43 PM)
All depends on how well I knew the person. If we were just casual friends or co-workers - I doubt I would attend. If we were pretty good friends - then I would attend.

I feel much the same as the Rat here.

andiesmama - May 23, 2008 11:59 AM (GMT)
Even if it was a good friend, I couldn't go. I'm sorry, but I still see it as a public display of agreeing with/accepting/approving of the marriage, and I'm none of the above when it comes to gay marriage.

hope4today - May 23, 2008 12:25 PM (GMT)
Where as I see it as showing someone unconditional love. I wouldn't agree with what they are doing and I would have spoken to them about it but I would not turn my back on them.

Especially if they were unbelievers (which I'm kind of assuming they would be), 'cos unbelievers sin, that's what they do. That was one of the complaints against Jesus, he hung out with sinners, went to their houses and had feasts with them (ie parties). And I don't see anything that says they all of a sudden stopped sinning when he turned up at their parties.

My attendance would be in support and love for them, not in support of gay marriage. If they asked me to attend a gay marriage rally with them, that would be different and I would say No.

But that is only how I feel about it and I can understand why others feel differently.


Honey - May 23, 2008 12:48 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (andiesmama @ May 23 2008, 07:59 AM)
Even if it was a good friend, I couldn't go. I'm sorry, but I still see it as a public display of agreeing with/accepting/approving of the marriage, and I'm none of the above when it comes to gay marriage.

:agree:


Addicted2~Jesus - May 23, 2008 01:42 PM (GMT)
I think folks blurr the line so badly on an issue such as this, everone likes to say, well Jesus hung out wit sinners, yes He did, but did He ever once say, I'm hangin out wit you in your sin an please continue to sin? He told em all to knock it off an git right wit the Father. I think that's where the trouble is, yes we should an are to love them unconditionally, that does not mean we support them in whatever sin they are involved in. I agree, showin up at a weddin would be the same as endorsin them in thier sin when as Christians we should not do so. I can not make the distingtion between a rally an a weddin personally. What happens when a person in sin refuses to stop the sin they are in? It's laid out for us, an I believe it's in the book of Mark, don't quote me on that I would have to look it up.

hope4today - May 23, 2008 02:34 PM (GMT)
Look it up please A2J 'cos actually the way we are to treat believers who remain in sin is different to how we are to treat unbelievers who do the same

I believe with unbelievers we stick with and keep loving them and pointing them to the Father. Believers who remain in sin we are told to correct in certain ways and then if they don't listen we are to seperate ourselves from them for discipline.

Personally I would rather err on the side of being along side an unbeliever in love ( and I would discuss the fact with them what I believe to be the truth and why), than to err on the side of condemning the sinner along with the sin.

So in this case, if it were my brother, or my sister, or a close friend, I would attend the wedding. If you don't think that's right for you, that's fine, I understand.
I think there are too many gay people out there whose christian families have rejected them personally instead of identifying the sin as wrong and still being there for the person.

As yet I haven't been faced with it, so all this is hypothetical and if I'm wrong I pray that God would show me. Until that time I will continue to go with what I believe is right. (btw it would be different if it were a professing christian doing the same thing... that I believe would require church discipline)

Oh and please tell me where anyone said."Please continue in your sin". Never did, never would. I would never pretend that I believed it was ok and not a sin.
What Jesus didn't do was say I can't go to your place 'cos you are a sinner. Now we didn't see what he would have done if he was invited to a gay wedding by one of the unbelievers around 'cos we're not told he was ever invited to one. So we just have to listen to the Spirit of God and do the best we can.


Addicted2~Jesus - May 23, 2008 04:02 PM (GMT)
I agree wit you Hope, maybe we need to draw a new line here... what I was talkin bout was believers involved in sin, an I spose it is different for unbelievers in a way.

See... we have "believers" in churches.. "chruches" sayin it is NOT sin, sayin the act, the unnatrual act of homosexuality is NOT sin... so here in lies a problem.. now.. help me to understand this.

If marriage is for life.. an you claim to be gay an you git married for life an it is sin... an we go to a weddin to endorse thier marriage which is sin etc.. how are we tellin them that what they are doin is wrong? Isn't the whole marriage thin sorta the end result now? Cause ... I jes git so flustered by this crap... cause NOW we git into, in order to git OUT of sin, they've gotta git frickin divorced! yet.. another sin....

All it adds up to is a matter of pilin one sin upon another. If we as believers go to a weddin, say we are here because we support your desicion to marry into more sin, what in the heck does that say bout us? Where is our back bone in relation to this? Folks seem to want a black an white nice lil neat difference, I am not sayin we should shun them, tell em one day your on your way to hell an then see ya. But we can not very well join into the sin by bein an accomplace. Which is what I think it would be. I personnaly think that we would serve them better in love by sayin, nope sorry, what you are doin is sinful an I can not very well support you in this. I'll continue to pray God will open your heart but sin is sin an we should call it as much, not hide it behind "love", what love is it to pat em on the back an then help dig the hole to hell?

Please understand I am not bashin anyone here, I am jes speakin for mysef an I am not tryin to look down on er otherwise offend those who say they would go etc.


Stringaling - May 23, 2008 04:13 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Addicted2~Jesus @ May 23 2008, 11:02 AM)
I agree wit you Hope, maybe we need to draw a new line here... what I was talkin bout was believers involved in sin, an I spose it is different for unbelievers in a way.

See... we have "believers" in churches.. "chruches" sayin it is NOT sin, sayin the act, the unnatrual act of homosexuality is NOT sin... so here in lies a problem.. now.. help me to understand this.

If marriage is for life.. an you claim to be gay an you git married for life an it is sin... an we go to a weddin to endorse thier marriage which is sin etc.. how are we tellin them that what they are doin is wrong? Isn't the whole marriage thin sorta the end result now? Cause ... I jes git so flustered by this crap... cause NOW we git into, in order to git OUT of sin, they've gotta git frickin divorced! yet.. another sin....

All it adds up to is a matter of pilin one sin upon another. If we as believers go to a weddin, say we are here because we support your desicion to marry into more sin, what in the heck does that say bout us? Where is our back bone in relation to this? Folks seem to want a black an white nice lil neat difference, I am not sayin we should shun them, tell em one day your on your way to hell an then see ya. But we can not very well join into the sin by bein an accomplace. Which is what I think it would be. I personnaly think that we would serve them better in love by sayin, nope sorry, what you are doin is sinful an I can not very well support you in this. I'll continue to pray God will open your heart but sin is sin an we should call it as much, not hide it behind "love", what love is it to pat em on the back an then help dig the hole to hell?

Please understand I am not bashin anyone here, I am jes speakin for mysef an I am not tryin to look down on er otherwise offend those who say they would go etc.

:agree: 100%

And as mentioned earlier, when Jesus dined with those "sinners" he did so to bring them to repentance through love, not just to socialize or party with them, not to show support for them as persons.

squatpuke - May 23, 2008 04:13 PM (GMT)
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Hope....what Louise is trying to say is....


If your kind, good hearted satanist friend invited you to a ritual...would you support them and attend?

Stringaling - May 23, 2008 04:21 PM (GMT)
Gay "marriage" is a mockery of Holy Matromony. Perhaps rather than showing support and love by attending their sinful celebration in this unholy ritual, you can love love them in a myriad of other ways.

squatpuke - May 23, 2008 04:24 PM (GMT)
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string...quit beating around the bush and tell her how you really FEEL....



:doh:



lol @

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Perhaps rather than showing support and love by attending their sinful celebration in this unholy ritual, you can love love them in a myriad of other ways.

Addicted2~Jesus - May 23, 2008 04:25 PM (GMT)
Isn't that the problem today though? Many "believers" don't even believe that God set up marriage to be between a man and a woman... when they conveintly deny that fact then what's to stop anythin else?

Spose we conveintely decided that Thou Shalt NOT kill, didn't really mean we shouldn't kill in any other way but shootin wit a gun? Then all of a sudden any an ever other killin is fine...

That's where we are at. (an yes I know, that's endin a sentence in a prepositional phrase :) ) when the line has moved an you've got dumb ass preachers sayin homosexual's are not sinful er their acts are fine an they can be married an approved by God, then the world has taken yet another step to hell... Woe to you preachers that lead my flock astray! an I don't mind sayin Thus saith the Lord in that!


Honey - May 23, 2008 04:26 PM (GMT)
Right. I honestly don't think God "blesses and sanctifies" a homosexual marriage....:blink: Just think, satan must be having a hayday with all this "permitting gay rights" going on. :sigh:

squatpuke - May 23, 2008 04:26 PM (GMT)
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Maybe God just hasn't 'stepped into the 21st Century yet'....?????

Addicted2~Jesus - May 23, 2008 04:28 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (squatpuke @ May 23 2008, 10:26 AM)
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Maybe God just hasn't 'stepped into the 21st Century yet'....?????

Be careful my dear brother, I'm in CO on my way to VA an I don't mind takin a detour to flagstaff for some good o'l fashion mudstompin on ya :P

Honey - May 23, 2008 04:28 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (squatpuke @ May 23 2008, 12:26 PM)
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Maybe God just hasn't 'stepped into the 21st Century yet'....?????

:lena:

That's a message to YOU sent by GOD.

hope4today - May 23, 2008 04:28 PM (GMT)
I hear what you're saying A2J and this is not a straight forward matter.

Just a few things

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Cause ... I jes git so flustered by this crap... cause NOW we git into, in order to git OUT of sin, they've gotta git frickin divorced! yet.. another sin....


:rolf: ..sorry I know this is not a laughing matter but I could just 'hear' you saying that and I couldn't help it

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If we as believers go to a weddin, say we are here because we support your desicion to marry into more sin, what in the heck does that say bout us?


There is an assumption here that in going to the wedding I'm saying I support your decision. I know that is how you would feel but it isn't what I would be saying. Remember all the way along we've been talking about whoever these people are that we are close to them (I wouldn't go to just any gay wedding). In which case I would have clearly told them I DO NOT agree with what they are doing. I'm sure I would have spoken to them about Christ and the gospel. I would have made it clear to them that I do not agree with what they are doing but I would not refuse to be with them because of the closeness of the relationship. I would want to keep all bridges strong. I someone else misunderstands why I am there I would have to leave that with God. There will always be times when our motives are misunderstood.

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Folks seem to want a black an white nice lil neat difference, I am not sayin we should shun them, tell em one day your on your way to hell an then see ya.


That's the problem - it isn't black and white A2J. If it were it would be easier for us to agree. So I wouldn't be dogmatic about this for anyone else, for me I expect I would go, but I do understand others who say they couldn't and would express their love in whatever they felt comfortable without going to the wedding.

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But we can not very well join into the sin by bein an accomplace.


Again, differences in how we see things. I don't see telling them how I feel but attending as being an accomplice. I wouldn't however be one of the witnesses. I think I would have to say to them I can't do that because I don't agree with what you are doing so cannot put my legal endorsement behind it. That to me would be an accomplice.


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I personnaly think that we would serve them better in love by sayin, nope sorry, what you are doin is sinful an I can not very well support you in this. I'll continue to pray God will open your heart but sin is sin


I agree that this could also be a legitimate response. In fact, it may also be that there are times God would speak and tell us to do different things at different times because he knows the heart of the person and what will speak to them. It's a bit like the parenting quote that says "Don't treat all your children the same, treat them all equally" because each of our children are different and so they learn, hear and understand differently. We have the same standards with all our children but may teach them or get the message through in a different way.

Anyway,. that's just some more thoughts on the subject. It is certainly a challening matter and not one with easy answers, I don't think.


Addicted2~Jesus - May 23, 2008 04:29 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Honey @ May 23 2008, 10:28 AM)
QUOTE (squatpuke @ May 23 2008, 12:26 PM)
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Maybe God just hasn't 'stepped into the 21st Century yet'....?????

:lena:

That's a message to YOU sent by GOD.

How is it they say....


Tru Dat?

squatpuke - May 23, 2008 04:49 PM (GMT)
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you hippies obviously can't taste sarcasm when you smell it....

hope4today - May 23, 2008 04:52 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Honey @ May 23 2008, 11:26 AM)
Right. I honestly don't think God "blesses and sanctifies" a homosexual marriage....:blink: Just think, satan must be having a hayday with all this "permitting gay rights" going on. :sigh:

I don't get this post. Has any one said they think he would bless and sanctify a gay marriage?

Just in case you think I think that because I would attend a wedding for a friend, I don't.

I never thought, nor would I ever think that God sanctifies and blesses a gay marriage. And that is not what I believe I would be doing by attending a wedding but I don't think I can explain it any more than I already have.


hope4today - May 23, 2008 04:54 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Stringaling @ May 23 2008, 11:13 AM)
QUOTE (Addicted2~Jesus @ May 23 2008, 11:02 AM)
I agree wit you Hope, maybe we need to draw a new line here... what I was talkin bout was believers involved in sin, an I spose it is different for unbelievers in a way.

See... we have "believers" in churches.. "chruches" sayin it is NOT sin, sayin the act, the unnatrual act of homosexuality is NOT sin... so here in lies a problem.. now.. help me to understand this.

If marriage is for life.. an you claim to be gay an you git married for life an it is sin... an we go to a weddin to endorse thier marriage which is sin etc.. how are we tellin them that what they are doin is wrong?  Isn't the whole marriage thin sorta the end result now?  Cause ... I jes git so flustered by this crap... cause NOW we git into, in order to git OUT of sin, they've gotta git frickin divorced! yet.. another sin....

All it adds up to is a matter of pilin one sin upon another.  If we as believers go to a weddin, say we are here because we support your desicion to marry into more sin, what in the heck does that say bout us?  Where is our back bone in relation to this?  Folks seem to want a black an white nice lil neat difference, I am not sayin we should shun them, tell em one day your on your way to hell an then see ya.  But we can not very well join into the sin by bein an accomplace.  Which is what I think it would be.  I personnaly think that we would serve them better in love by sayin, nope sorry, what you are doin is sinful an I can not very well support you in this.  I'll continue to pray God will open your heart but sin is sin an we should call it as much, not hide it behind "love", what love is it to pat em on the back an then help dig the hole to hell?

Please understand I am not bashin anyone here, I am jes speakin for mysef an I am not tryin to look down on er otherwise offend those who say they would go etc.

:agree: 100%

And as mentioned earlier, when Jesus dined with those "sinners" he did so to bring them to repentance through love, not just to socialize or party with them, not to show support for them as persons.

And that is my intent String. Did I say I was just going to socialise and have party?

hope4today - May 23, 2008 04:57 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Stringaling @ May 23 2008, 11:21 AM)
Gay "marriage" is a mockery of Holy Matromony. Perhaps rather than showing support and love by attending their sinful celebration in this unholy ritual, you can love love them in a myriad of other ways.

n/m


Addicted2~Jesus - May 23, 2008 05:00 PM (GMT)
Hope, I detect the rise of adrenilene goin on here. Please don't take offense to anythin here, infact, I believe in this thread what everone has said is factually true an the only definin difference is probly the 'point of view' that folks are comin from.

We do know for example that, marriage is a holy thin when done in a holy way, an unholy when done in an unholy way, such as gay marriage. It's takin sumthin God ordained an makin a mockery of it. So I don't think anyone is bashin anyone, cept.. maybe Sqaut.. but that's.. ya know.. jes Sqaut ;)

hope4today - May 23, 2008 05:15 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Addicted2~Jesus @ May 23 2008, 12:00 PM)
Hope, I detect the rise of adrenilene goin on here. Please don't take offense to anythin here, infact, I believe in this thread what everone has said is factually true an the only definin difference is probly the 'point of view' that folks are comin from.

We do know for example that, marriage is a holy thin when done in a holy way, an unholy when done in an unholy way, such as gay marriage. It's takin sumthin God ordained an makin a mockery of it. So I don't think anyone is bashin anyone, cept.. maybe Sqaut.. but that's.. ya know.. jes Sqaut ;)

You are correct in detecting a rise in adrenalin Louis but not from anything you have said at all.

Rightly or wrongly, since I am the nly one carrying on the discussion from my position, I felt that some comments had put words or intent in my mouth that were not there. So I felt I had to clarify that "I" am not saying or doing what is implied.

Also the posts were all coming together and so I got some out of order which didn't help.

Any way adrenalin is back down again.

Again, it wasn't anything you said 'cos I know you worry sometimes about how you come across.. :)







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