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Title: Grace vs. Judgement


Keneke - May 9, 2008 05:09 PM (GMT)
When should one show Grace verses Judgement?

Stringaling - May 9, 2008 05:56 PM (GMT)
Need more info..

Scenario please...?

Keneke - May 9, 2008 06:08 PM (GMT)
Friend comes out of the closet...Has had a hard time with guys in the past and her best friend now becomes her partner...

squatpuke - May 9, 2008 06:09 PM (GMT)
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Grace...

sf49erfan - May 9, 2008 06:13 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Keneke @ May 9 2008, 02:08 PM)
Friend comes out of the closet...Has had a hard time with guys in the past and her best friend now becomes her partner...

It is quite possible that she is just sick of the dating scene and has decided to try something "different." She might come to realize that she is making an error in judgment all on her own. Be there for her now and later.

Stringaling - May 9, 2008 06:20 PM (GMT)
Love the friend. Listen to her. Do not encourage the behavior, but love her. Pray for her but don't tell her "I'm praying for you" that would be just as bad as shaking your finger at her..


Keneke - May 9, 2008 07:07 PM (GMT)
Just thought I'd add it's not happening to me :D

Now what if they leave the church b/c they feel judged...?

Stringaling - May 9, 2008 07:26 PM (GMT)
The homosexual lifestyle is obviously not an approved or acceptable pratice by the church..we won't go into discussion of churches who are beginning to accept this..

Those who want to indulge in those desires and temptations and who refuses to accepth the Church's teaching is obviously not going to feel accepted by a church that condemns that particular sin. They want their sin approved, justified, and rewarded by not only society, but the church too. This is not possible. Their only course of action, if they want to continue to give in to their passions and desires, is to avoid those who will not support them in their sin. That would mean leaving the church. This is quite common amongst those who choose to live the homosexual lifestyle. Until they can come to a point of repentance and willingly choose to struggle against the sinful desires, the church will not be a place of comfort for them. All we can do is pray that God will soften their hearts and help them to see the truth of their behavior..

Honey - May 9, 2008 07:34 PM (GMT)
If they say they leave the church because they're being judged....I'd think it means more like "I know it's wrong, but I wanna do it anyway".

clayman - May 9, 2008 10:52 PM (GMT)
She's your friend. Love her with the love of Christ. Show her that Christ loves the sinners, even though He hates the sin. Fred Phelps' claim that "God hates fags" is, unfortunately, all to prevalent in today's church.

How to talk to her? I don't really know. But when the opportunity arises - and it will - you'll know what to say. Let the Spirit guide you.

andiesmama - May 10, 2008 01:37 PM (GMT)
Yep, Grace. "Love the sinner, hate the sin" Too bad she's leaving the church, too bad she feels that way. But kind of agreeing with String on that one. Is the church REALLY making her feel unwelcome? Or is it her guilt? :dunno:

Either way if it were happening to me I'd still be a friend even after she came out of the closet. But I wouldn't support her lifestyle.




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