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sf49erfan - March 13, 2008 05:51 PM (GMT)
For those of you who are homeschooling:

Do you know homeschooled students who have graduated on to college? If so, did they go to a small college?

I'm wondering how homeschool students do when they get into a situation where they are one student out of 600 in a lecture-style college class. Also I wonder how well they socialize with other students in very large group settings.

Stringaling - March 13, 2008 05:53 PM (GMT)
One o the moms inmy group has a son who was homeschooled and he is in med school. Actually in his residency. Top of his class and he calls home telling her about stitching up a guys face and all sorts of gross stuff..

Honey - March 13, 2008 06:04 PM (GMT)
I don't "know" of anyone who's homeschooled and the kids' in college, but I've read that homeschooled kids tended to be more mature and social once in a public setting. By the time they hit college, they SHOULD be mature enough to behave themselves properly. I'd hope....

Not all parents who homeschool keep their kids in bubblewrap.

Stringaling - March 13, 2008 06:05 PM (GMT)
I'll ask this friday when we go to co-op. I'm sure there are other moms there with college age kids..

Stringaling - March 13, 2008 06:11 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (sf49erfan @ Mar 13 2008, 12:51 PM)
For those of you who are homeschooling:

Do you know homeschooled students who have graduated on to college?  If so, did they go to a small college?

I'm wondering how homeschool students do when they get into a situation where they are one student out of 600 in a lecture-style college class.  Also I wonder how well they socialize with other students in very large group settings.

I think the point you are trying to get at here is that homeschooled students might not be able to sit in large group type settings and function as well as those that were raised in it. Actually , those that were raised as one of a hundred were treated and given attention and taught as one of a hundred. At home, when you are almost the only student, you can't get away with not paying attention, goofing off, or sleeping in class. There are serious repercussions to non-attentiveness. :whip: whereas non-attentiveness by one of a large group usually goes unnoticed.

It is a myth that homeschoolers are unable to socialize. Public school "socialization" includes making friends with children with bad behaviors or attitudes that we as parents do not approve of. Public school "socialization" includes age segregation, very little interaction with adults, and the formation of cliques very early on. Public schol "socialization" teaches conformity and "group-think". Children don't develop the ability to think entirely independantly without looking to their peers for approval.

Homeschooled kids learn to interact with all age groups and to treat each one with respect. They learn to formulate ideas independantly of their peers. Peer pressure, which is sometimes literally the death of public school kids, isn't near as high for homescoolers, if it exists at all.

I have heard it put this way: Go to your local public school, walk down the hallways and see what behaviors you would want your child to emulate.

Stringaling - March 13, 2008 06:27 PM (GMT)
Here's a nice article about homeschool socialization:



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Ok, so what about socialization? It doesn't really happen in public high schools because those are abnormal environments. Nowhere in life -- not even the military -- will one be associating strictly with people of one's own age or be subjected to massive amounts of mind-numbing, conformity-inducing peer pressure totally preoccupied with image and having northing to do with real life. Moreover they will be confronted with a myriad of moral and sometimes physical hazards which their relativistic education leaves them singularly unprepared to face. “Just say no” doesn’t cut it without a solid absolute moral basis for saying “no.”

Addicted2~Jesus - March 13, 2008 06:27 PM (GMT)
I don't know any, but I am amazed that soooo many folks think that because you home school then the kid is kept in a closet an can not socialize wit others er intigrate into socitey.. I have never understood that, Sarah's sister had a fit wit that, sayin we were holdin Kat back, makin er shy er sumthin, an Kat is so out goin it surprised er sister.

I've heard people say we were abusin children because they cain't sit in class an pass frickin notes to each other an learn NUTHIN.... crazy how folks will take sumthin like that an think that... go figure.

Keneke - March 13, 2008 07:08 PM (GMT)
I know I don't homeschool but most of my family does.
Out of the seven homeschooled kids I know...one just finished college none of the others attended. The one that just graduated has had a 'woah...this is real life' situation. You don't wanna know what she does now... :whistle:

Keneke - March 13, 2008 07:10 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Addicted2~Jesus @ Mar 13 2008, 12:27 PM)
I don't know any, but I am amazed that soooo many folks think that because you home school then the kid is kept in a closet an can not socialize wit others er intigrate into socitey.. I have never understood that, Sarah's sister had a fit wit that, sayin we were holdin Kat back, makin er shy er sumthin, an Kat is so out goin it surprised er sister.

I've heard people say we were abusin children because they cain't sit in class an pass frickin notes to each other an learn NUTHIN.... crazy how folks will take sumthin like that an think that... go figure.

From the few I know (7) that were HS ALL were completely sheltered. My family HS now and most of their kiddo's are COMPLETELY completely sheltered. I guess we get mixed messages...I know some do the co-op and some do get togethers but I guarantee you some keep their kids in a bubble.

rasplundjr - March 13, 2008 08:07 PM (GMT)
My Ex Girlfriend and her brotehrs and sister were homeschooled..

I know she greaduated from HS on time, I think all the others were a year or two behing (her sister is I think 23 now and I think she still hasnt' graduated....)

but my Ex and her older brother both whent to college , he's taking some time off she has her associates and her bachelors taking a year off and figuring out if she wants to go to law school.....

Honey - March 13, 2008 09:45 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Keneke @ Mar 13 2008, 03:08 PM)
The one that just graduated has had a 'woah...this is real life' situation. You don't wanna know what she does now... :whistle:

I think everyone experiences that once they start up a real-life job, regardless if they're homeschooled or not. That's a fact of life. Now that you mention it, I'd be interested in knowing what she's doing now.

Keneke - March 13, 2008 10:41 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Honey @ Mar 13 2008, 03:45 PM)
QUOTE (Keneke @ Mar 13 2008, 03:08 PM)
The one that just graduated has had a 'woah...this is real life' situation.  You don't wanna know what she does now... :whistle:

I think everyone experiences that once they start up a real-life job, regardless if they're homeschooled or not. That's a fact of life. Now that you mention it, I'd be interested in knowing what she's doing now.

She had the 'woah - this is life' when she graduated from high school. She ran away from home, lived with her boyfriend, partied etc. I don't think EVERYONE experiences that. I know I didn't :dunno:
She's a ...ummm...not sure what they are called. She works for agency that sends girls to 'big customer' parties. The girls are there to entertain the guys, wearing usually just bikini's (I've seen her pics, she has a myspace, I know the family etc) and they also have the calendars and shows of barely there clothing etc. She's sad. Her eyes say it all :(

Sarah - March 14, 2008 12:16 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (sf49erfan @ Mar 13 2008, 11:51 AM)
For those of you who are homeschooling:

Do you know homeschooled students who have graduated on to college? If so, did they go to a small college?

I'm wondering how homeschool students do when they get into a situation where they are one student out of 600 in a lecture-style college class. Also I wonder how well they socialize with other students in very large group settings.

You'd learn a lot about homeschooling if you'd spend a few minutes with google.

Colleges these days are actively seeking out homeschooled students for several reasons. Number one, they have a higher academic achievement. Two, they generally have more motivation and self discipline which are more crucial in a high school vs. college setting. Three, homeschoolers generally do more extra curricular activities because not only can they spend less time on school work because less time is wasted but their schedule can be more flexible and they are more "well rounded".

Homeschoolers score higher on college entrance exams.

Here's an interesting article for you to read:

http://www.hslda.org/docs/nche/000000/00000017.asp

sf49erfan - March 14, 2008 01:35 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Keneke @ Mar 13 2008, 03:08 PM)
You don't wanna know what she does now... :whistle:

Is she a $4000/hour call girl?

Basil - March 14, 2008 01:43 PM (GMT)
When it comes to facing any new situation we have to have skills to adapt to whatever new challenge we face, be it the demands of a new job, marriage, college, etc. A homeschool kid facing the large class lecture environment for the first time will have to do the same. He'll have new demands to fulfill, but as long as he's smart and well-educated, he would not have any disadvantage?

Basil

Stringaling - March 14, 2008 03:15 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Keneke @ Mar 13 2008, 05:41 PM)
QUOTE (Honey @ Mar 13 2008, 03:45 PM)
QUOTE (Keneke @ Mar 13 2008, 03:08 PM)
The one that just graduated has had a 'woah...this is real life' situation.  You don't wanna know what she does now... :whistle:

I think everyone experiences that once they start up a real-life job, regardless if they're homeschooled or not. That's a fact of life. Now that you mention it, I'd be interested in knowing what she's doing now.

She had the 'woah - this is life' when she graduated from high school. She ran away from home, lived with her boyfriend, partied etc. I don't think EVERYONE experiences that. I know I didn't :dunno:
She's a ...ummm...not sure what they are called. She works for agency that sends girls to 'big customer' parties. The girls are there to entertain the guys, wearing usually just bikini's (I've seen her pics, she has a myspace, I know the family etc) and they also have the calendars and shows of barely there clothing etc. She's sad. Her eyes say it all :(

Sounds like she's got some other serious problems...perhaps history of sexual ause or something? That kind of thing is what happens someties when kids are abused like that... :(

Keneke - March 14, 2008 05:08 PM (GMT)
No. She was just sheltered too much IMHO. I won't go into her upbringing but it was pretty much a perfect childhood...

Stringaling - March 14, 2008 05:17 PM (GMT)
What exactly do you mean by "sheltered"?

I went to school with a girl who was forbidden by her father to do anything, pretty much, and she did go a little wild after she graduated and moved out. Is that kind of what you mean? Church functions only, early curfew, if allowed to go out at all, control over every aspect of the child's life and decisions, etc?

Keneke - March 14, 2008 05:18 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Stringaling @ Mar 14 2008, 11:17 AM)
What exactly do you mean by "sheltered"?

I went to school with a girl who was forbidden by her father to do anything, pretty much, and she did go a little wild after she graduated and moved out. Is that kind of what you mean? Church functions only, early curfew, if allowed to go out at all, control over every aspect of the child's life and decisions, etc?

pretty much... No insight to the real world...keeping all real world situations out of the house...

Stringaling - March 14, 2008 05:23 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Keneke @ Mar 14 2008, 12:18 PM)
QUOTE (Stringaling @ Mar 14 2008, 11:17 AM)
What exactly do you mean by "sheltered"?

I went to school with a girl who was forbidden by her father to do anything, pretty much, and she did go a little wild after she graduated and moved out.  Is that kind of what you mean?  Church functions only, early curfew, if allowed to go out at all, control over every aspect of the child's life and decisions, etc?

pretty much... No insight to the real world...keeping all real world situations out of the house...

I've known people like that. Its certainly not a specifically homeschool chareacteristic, though. Those homeschoolers who were sheltered like that would have been done the same way had their parents chosen to send them to public school. Its a parenting issue, really.

Addicted2~Jesus - March 14, 2008 05:33 PM (GMT)
I would agree, I knew a knock out gal in school that had a dad that was insanely controllin an sheltered er as well, it was murder jes tryin to git er to talk to you, she wasn't allowed to do anythin either, stock shows were all out, dabces all of that, I have no idea what ended up happenin to er.

Keneke - March 14, 2008 05:48 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Stringaling @ Mar 14 2008, 11:23 AM)
QUOTE (Keneke @ Mar 14 2008, 12:18 PM)
QUOTE (Stringaling @ Mar 14 2008, 11:17 AM)
What exactly do you mean by "sheltered"?

I went to school with a girl who was forbidden by her father to do anything, pretty much, and she did go a little wild after she graduated and moved out.  Is that kind of what you mean?  Church functions only, early curfew, if allowed to go out at all, control over every aspect of the child's life and decisions, etc?

pretty much... No insight to the real world...keeping all real world situations out of the house...

I've known people like that. Its certainly not a specifically homeschool chareacteristic, though. Those homeschoolers who were sheltered like that would have been done the same way had their parents chosen to send them to public school. Its a parenting issue, really.

I disagree somewhat...In a public setting you get exposed to a bit more. THe HSers I know now are sheltered...and the parents reason for HS was not purely academic but keeping them away from worldly issues... :dunno:

Stringaling - March 15, 2008 12:05 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Keneke @ Mar 14 2008, 12:48 PM)
and the parents reason for HS was not purely academic but keeping them away from worldly issues...

Exactly--a parenting issue...

Honey - March 15, 2008 12:40 AM (GMT)
:agree: It does sound like very controlling parenting issues. Ya gotta let kids be kids.




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