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Addicted2~Jesus - February 28, 2008 06:52 PM (GMT)
I was watchin the news an they are talkin of course bout poltics, specifically bout Mcain an oboma an the Iraq ordeal.

Mcain says we stay there for 100 years IF that's what it takes. Obama says git out.

To me, this is where it gits REALLY stupid... Obama is hittin people wit what they want to hear, brin my faimly members home etc etc etc

Mcain is hittin em wit the truth, er what I feel is the truth.

What do you think we should do?

Personnaly... right wrong er indifferent, we ARE in Iraq. It's that simple, I think it would be insanely stupid to pull out now, er even 2 years ago etc. The very first thin that WILL happen is Iraq will be taken over agin by yet another dictatorship, er Al Q will run rampat. I understand what Mcain is sayin, we can not go in there like we have, blast the crap out of the place then jes bail out. All we'll do is allow a broken country to be taken over agin. I think Obama is usin it as a ploy for the most part, an if not an he's elected, he's goin to further destablize the region by pullin out, an then guess what? We'll jes havta start from sqaure one all over agin... er do nuthin.. which won't happen cause the world will want us to intervene down the road anyways.

Wether we got involved in Iraq because it was the right er wrong reason is really inmaterial now, now we need to fix what is an not jes bail out an leave the door wide open to increase disasters that are there.

rasplundjr - February 28, 2008 07:09 PM (GMT)
There was a power structure in place, we toppled that regime it's our duty to stay there until the vacuum is filled and sealed tight. Otherwise a whole country of people are gonna get caught in the middle of what we escalated.

sf49erfan - February 28, 2008 07:38 PM (GMT)
First of all I hope McCain is exagerating. We didn't need to stay in Germany or Japan for a 100 years after we defeated their governments in the 40s.

What we need to do is start a graduated pull-out. We need to help their new government create a constitution, oversee the installment of the new government and help train their defense force to support the new government against overthrow. With each step of that process we need to remove more of our troops. They need to stand on their own eventually.

Nothing, not even the U.S. putting most of our forces in the country, can ultimately guarentee peace. The Middle East has been in a constant state of turmoil for over 1000 years. The country of Iraq has only been around since 1926. It wouldn't surprise me if Iran and Iraq were merged into a single country in our lifetimes.

sf49erfan - February 28, 2008 07:42 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (sf49erfan @ Feb 28 2008, 03:38 PM)
First of all I hope McCain is exagerating. We didn't need to stay in Germany or Japan for a 100 years after we defeated their governments in the 40s.

What we need to do is start a graduated pull-out. We need to help their new government create a constitution, oversee the installment of the new government and help train their defense force to support the new government against overthrow. With each step of that process we need to remove more of our troops. They need to stand on their own eventually.

Nothing, not even the U.S. putting most of our forces in the country, can ultimately guarentee peace. The Middle East has been in a constant state of turmoil for over 1000 years. The country of Iraq has only been around since 1926. It wouldn't surprise me if Iran and Iraq were merged into a single country in our lifetimes.

There are really only two other options:

1. Pull out now and let Iran capture it within a year

2. Declare Iraq a victory-won U.S. territory and install a military governor

Keneke - February 28, 2008 08:45 PM (GMT)
:whistle:

RooMama - February 28, 2008 09:09 PM (GMT)
I agree with you.




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