He's harpin on a story an I agree wit em to a point, no sorry I cain't git links right now, but apperently a catholic school teacher ended up prego witout a husband an they drumed er out of er job, she's apperently already had the baby an now wants er job back. Should she be allowed to have er job back? I say no, so does Chis Baker, but he expanded it to include all schools. Should single prego women be allowed to teach in school? Agin I say no, but of course no one would go for that in public schools an the like, not wit all the disasters in this world these days.

In a faith based private school, I'd say no because the teachers are supposed to model proper behavior to the students. By allowing her actions to go unrepremanded, the authority would therey be "okaying" the immoral behavior. The student body would get the message, likely even unconsciously, that standards are not really meant to be held to and breaking or bending them is okay so long as its done to keep from hurting someone's feelings or ostricising them.

Bleeding hearts, anyone? :rollseyes:

I'd have to see her contract or the school rules. :whistle:
I don't agree with what she did but I'd like to see what the school requires of the teachers. :whistle:

You gotta be kiddin... this was a catholic school... pretty much nuff said. An in this at least I an the catholic church agree, sex let alone children out of wedlock is a no no. Jes like gay 'leaders' in the church, in my opinion it's a no brainer, it's wrong an should not be tolerated. I'd like to know where the father is.. no ones talkin bout that slack jawed twit. It sets a bad example for students an much of what children learn practically is by examples we set for them. To allow this is to say it's ok to bang anythin you want an we'll sit idly by... it's wrong, it's sin an we should all call it what it is. No that does not mean beat em over the head for the rest of thier lives because they made a mistake, but it does mean the church should take a stand an I pray they stand on what's right an Godly.

I read 'Private' school vs. Catholic school.

I'd like to know who the teacher is/read the story. Just curious to read it...

you might could find the story under www.ktlkfm.com then click on the chirs guys picture, I *think* that goes to his blog er sumthin

I don't think the actual person/story is that important. It could be purely hypothetical situation but if the details of that hypothetical situation are that a teacher in a Catholic school flubbed up and is demonstrating her sin to children by showing an unmarried pregnancy, she should be removed from her position so as not to send the message to the children that this behavior is okay.

I like to read the stories.
I like to see if they resigned b/c they thought they *might* be fired, or if it's private vs. catholic etc. I just like reading the facts for myself :D

Thanks. I went there and didn't find it. I'll try again when YS is napping and I have more time :D

so what did they do? Did she get her job back?

All I'm finding is old stuff from 2005. Can't find a news story yet, but here's a link to a blog that talks about it.

Is there another similar story more recent? Now I'm curious........ B)

Another link
Here's the link to the story on ABC.com.

I found this one which is more recent. I'm guessing it's the right one.
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So... a single mother can't go back to the Job they know how to do because of a poor judgment call.

Aren't we called to forgive, and be forgiven for our sins?

I say give her the job back, maybe not at a Catholic schools because Catholics can be a bit pretentious and sticks in the mud.....

Maybe she needs to teach at a public school... but I wouldn't say she needs to be banned for life from teaching....

Wow! You should be a ChaCha guide or something......... B)

Oh, and :agree: with Raspy.

B) Thanks...
I'm still processing this one...

I would agree wit Raspy to an extent. While the single mother was prego no, she shouldn't be allowed to teach children, same wit any guy in my opinion, but it's alot less obvious that they are havin a kid out of web lock etc. buuuuuttt.t... le'me ask this... if all a teacher was subject to was a dismissal for the time that they were preganat etc, what's the deterant? If they know all they've got to do is pay thier dues as it were, where is the moral high ground?

I'm not talkin bout beatin er over the head for the rest of er life really, but if they jes GAVE er the job back, what's the deal? What's to stop the next one from doin it er er doin it agin? I think this is specifically what Christ was talkin bout when He said to cut them off, cut those that are in unrepentant sin off from the church less it causes others to stumble an fall.

Is the gal repentant? beats me, I donno, would she do it agin? agin I donno. But where is the line to be drawn in this? Personnally speakin, I don't think any teacher should be allowed to act in this manner, it teaches the way wrong example, so takin private schools out of the mix for a moment, which is what the Chris guy was sayin, should any teacher be allowed to act this way, regardless of the school they are teachin in?

Granted I know in this day an age, people would jes laugh at the idea, but in an ideal world, I say no, no teacher should be allowed to act in this manner an still be allowed to teach.

Infact.... jes how many pastors have been stripped in the public, utterly destroyed because they got themsef's involved in some sort of sexual deal? They are barred from leadin a church afterwards, not all I grant you, but many, an if we go by scripture then that is what we are sposed to do, a pastor is a bit more then a teacher plain an simple. If we won't allow pastors to do it, why would we let teachers do it?

By hiring her back, they could show the student an example of grace. :dunno:

Please try to remember that there is no heirarchy of sins. For some reason sexual sin gets considered by many as more of sin than lying or stealing, etc. God hates all of it equally.

If our jobs were tied to our ability not to sin, none of us would be employable!

Whats that got to do wit anythin? We don't allow teachers to swear infront of students, drink, er shoot drugs, er a host of other sins anyways, so whose tryin to make this into a 'bigger sin' thin anyways?

The entire point isn't catholic religion, er public vs. private, it's bout wether a teacher should be allowed to show immoral behaviour.

Roomama had a good idea, it may show grace, it might, but does that mean we should go on sinnin so that grace may abound? Paul talked bout that, sorry I cain't give you the scripture, I'd havta look it up.

Children, at such young, ignorant, ages cannot process and understand that. Their minds would only comprehend that she did wrong and it was really no big deal. Things of a spiritual and moral nature must be dealt with carefully. Grace wouldn't be the reason she got her job back. The real reason would be because those in authority could not stand up to their own rules and standards and leant the liberal way of the world and gave her the position back. Grace would be to give her a job, but not a teaching one where she would be a role model in front of children for the majority of their days. There should be consequences to actions, and time off for the pregnancy and a return to the same postion would not really teach her humility or set a good example to students and other teachers, etc...

No one is saying this is worse...This particular sin is more visible than more private sins such as theft or fraud. Since it is obvious and on display to more than the sinner herself, it will directly affect the thoughts, ideas, and opinions of more than the woman herself.

Maybe no one here is saying that it is worse, but society in general does.

Think about it. When was the last time there was a big scandal over a public figure taking the Lord's name in vain (I'm sure it happens every day)? But a president got impeached because he had an affair (and lied to try to cover it up).

Well the thing I'm thinking about is If she can't find a gig doing what she knows then she's going to have to settle for a job that pays a lot less and make it even harder to raise that child.

It becomes a cycle then...

(not that this will happen every time but I have seen it happen)
She can't find a gig she starts waiting tables working all the time, the only guys she meets are the drunken asses at the bar, she hooks up with one of them to try and bring more stability in, she get's knocked up again and he bails making her have to bust ass 2x as hard.....
lather rinse repeat...

but is it our job to punish sinners or is it our job to forgive, and trust that she'll get her rewards and or diminished returns upon her judgement.

Why should the child have to suffer her sins?

As you can see in the Holy Scriptures and throughout human history, that is just the way it is. I believe that it is a result of the fall of man. A nasty cruel effect of man's fall. :(

Plus where is CJ when I need him.... I mean he'd be able to tell us if teaching in public school isnt' punishment enough
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