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Title: The Curse of Canaan


sf49erfan - January 7, 2008 07:44 PM (GMT)
QUOTE
Genesis 9:
20 Noah, a man of the soil, proceeded to plant a vineyard. 21 When he drank some of its wine, he became drunk and lay uncovered inside his tent. 22 Ham, the father of Canaan, saw his father's nakedness and told his two brothers outside. 23 But Shem and Japheth took a garment and laid it across their shoulders; then they walked in backward and covered their father's nakedness. Their faces were turned the other way so that they would not see their father's nakedness.

24 When Noah awoke from his wine and found out what his youngest son had done to him, 25 he said,
      "Cursed be Canaan!
      The lowest of slaves
      will he be to his brothers."

26 He also said,
      "Blessed be the LORD, the God of Shem!
      May Canaan be the slave of Shem.

27 May God extend the territory of Japheth;
      may Japheth live in the tents of Shem,
      and may Canaan be his slave."

Genesis 10:6
The sons of Ham:
    Cush, Mizraim, [c] Put and Canaan.


Why did Noah curse Canaan when Ham was the one who did the wrong thing? If he was punishing all of Ham's decendants, why did Noah curse one one of Ham's sons?

Also:
Does Noah's curse have any power? Should God honor human-stated curses?

Stringaling - January 11, 2008 11:32 PM (GMT)
Check out some Jewish sources. I bet they'd have more info that we do..

Keneke - January 12, 2008 03:12 AM (GMT)
This is what I got from a friend:

The curse on Canaan is the most difficult to understand because it is hard to see why he should be cursed rather than his father, who actually did the wrong. But we note the following. First, it is a biblical principle (whether liked by us or not) that the sins of the fathers are visited on the children even to the third and fourth generations (Exod. 20:5). Second, the punishment, though inflicted on Canaan, was appropriate to Ham since he reaped exactly as he had sown. He sinned as a son and was punished in his son. Third, the assigning of the punishment to Canaan may have been (as is so often the case in God's judgments) a function of the mercy of God, who could have cursed Ham and all his descendants but instead restricted the punishment to only this fourth part, Canaan being only one of Ham's four sons. Whatever the reasoning may be, the judgment is nevertheless pronounced: "Cursed be Canaan! The lowest of slaves will he be to his brothers" (v. 25).
As we know, the race of Canaan became what was known as the Canaanites. They later on became slaves to the Jews.

Yes, his curse did indeed have power as he was a patriarch of Israel and given his covenant with God he had power to speak a curse on someone.

Keneke - January 15, 2008 04:04 AM (GMT)
:whistle:

Keneke - January 19, 2008 12:57 AM (GMT)
:whistle: :whistle:

rasplundjr - January 21, 2008 03:35 PM (GMT)
So......

Ham walked into talk to Pops and saw him laying there nekkid as a jabird goes out tells his bros... dudes I just saw pops naked don't go in there... they walk backward cover him up and when he waked up takes it out on Ham's kids?

Stringaling - January 22, 2008 12:01 PM (GMT)
basically, that's it. But to us it seems so odd because their cultural proprieties are quite different ours.

sf49erfan - January 22, 2008 04:58 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (rasplundjr @ Jan 21 2008, 11:35 AM)
So......

Ham walked into talk to Pops and saw him laying there nekkid as a jabird goes out tells his bros... dudes I just saw pops naked don't go in there... they walk backward cover him up and when he waked up takes it out on Ham's kids?

Not all of Ham's kids, just one of the four sons.




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