Where do you stand on the death penalty and how is is supported by your beliefs?


I'll chime in later..Gotta get the kids ready for co-op...

I'm not opposed to using it in pre-meditated murder cases.

This stance lines up with my beliefs because God commands the Israeliteis to use it in murder cases (see books 2 through 5 of the Bible).

I'm prolly going to catch hell for this...


I'm all for it. But I'm also all for being damned sure that the person actually did the crime too.

Murderers and Rapists, and Thugs that choose to consistently prey on their fellow men Kill em, or if they harm one hair on my family and friends, I will....

Or lock them away wher they can do no harm but not on my dime. Wall off a large portion of desert or find a small desert island I'll chip in for the ride to the locale and up keep on the defenses, but not for them to have cable and a college education......

I can forgive them one mistake... but if they keep doing it... get them away from the world at large, or put them down like rabid animals they are trying to be....

How is it supported by my beliefs or my faith or spiritually speaking?

Dunno if there is any foundation for my opinion in the Bible... but I cannot change how I feel....

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I'm all for it....especially for parking citations and people who throw their cigarette butts on the ground.

I had always been for it, but after thinking about it more in depth in the light of the gospel, I really can't support it any longer. It kinda stinks, because if anyone ever harmed my family, I'd have a very hard time not wanting to see them suffer or die, but everyone has one life given for repentance and then comes the judgement. I'd prefer to not be personally involved in cutting short the amount of time they might otherwise have had to reconcile themselves to God through Christ. Definitely repeat offenders and murdurers should be incarcerated without parole for life.

. . . . and cigarette butt droppers should have their fingers chopped off a knuckle at a time until they can't hold a cigarette any longer. With the tarsals, metatarsals, and phalanges that gives they 30 changes to learn their lesson, before they are left with only stubs!

Basil

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You realize that your actually wanting their toes cut off... Tarsals walk across the tar carpals drive the car....

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No wonder so many medical mishaps occur nowadays! They're all bits, just cut 'em off!

Basil

I'm in line with Raspy. A person can argue biblical support either way, so that's really a non-issue in this case.

And y'know, I have no idea why it costs more to execute someone than to imprison them for life. Seems like it should be pretty affordable.

I mean, why have wars, then? Just build big prisons around enemies...

You know, Raspy's suggestion of putting them all on an island has been done before....Right Hope?? That's how Austrailia originated didn't it??

I learned that from the Simpsons!

Not sure how I feel about it. I don't see how murder can be ok (death penalty) for some people - but then totally wrong for others (a murderer - abortionist). I use to be all for it - but anymore - I can't understand how Christians can rationalize it away. Murder is murder.

That's how it was colonised yeah. The English prisons were overcrowded and they sent them over here to serve their sentences. The reason the prisons were overcrowded was because they were sentencing people (mothers and fathers) to 5 and 10 years for things like stealing a loaf of bread to feed their starving children. I'm not kidding. They didn't find Australia they just took it over.

There were a lot of free settlers who came over at that time as well. Many of the 'lighter' so called criminals worked for them as part of their sentence.

:offtopic: More on Aussie history in another thread.

As for the death penalty, I used to be for it in extreme cases however i am now more reluctant to make such a decision. I think rather than bring back the death penalty we should be incarcerating some people for LIFE and that means LIFE. Some of these people should not be allowed out in society again. They are clearly either repeat offenders or mentally ill and either way have lost the right to move freely in the society they have abused.

I am tired of repeat offenders being let out only to traumatise people again. The types of crimes and the motives behind them should determine whether they can ever be released again.

I have to agree with Gutter.. I'm not so sure that the killing of these people is the right thing to do.

As for imprisoning them for life, that is gonna be hard to do. These days the prisons are so overcrowded! :nono:

What are we going to do if we don't lock them up and throw away the key, or kill them if they refuse to be rehabilitated?

Let these vermin murder our children, parents siblings, spouses, friends and loved ones??

There comes a time when you have to stop turning the other cheek and act....

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Looks like Raspy and myself are the only Republicans left on this forum.


Eric's evil ways have rubbed off on you lightweights.

:agree: You can't incarcerate these vermin until they die, as String said the prisons are over-crowded already.

Doesn't it say somewhere in the Bible about obeying the laws of the land? And right now the laws of our land include the death penalty (at least in the great state of Florida!) :thanks:

I don't think it's so much judging, but when the criminals aren't repentant, and continually commit their crimes without remorse, then something drastic needs to be done.

Actually I think I've chosen to withdraw any party affiliation.....I really don't know if I want to vote at all..... :nono:

I'm not sayinng let them loose!!! Thy must be locked up...I just don't know what the right thing to do is.

I know the thing about the laws of the land, but didn't the laws of the land recently demand racial segregation? Just because it is a law of the land, doesn't mean it is right... Its a tough call.........

You do the crime, you do the time.

Honestly, I really am unsure as to how I feel about this. In the past I was hardcore, "Let'em fry!!" type of guy. Anymore, I just don't know how to justify "picking and choosing" who gets to die. I know of several cases in Illinois where DNA showed the person on death row, or already put to death, was in reality innocent.

I'm not sure what the answer is - but I just don't feel right killing someone.