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Mandy - December 11, 2005 01:15 PM (GMT)

....when you and your spouse disagree on theology? My husband and I are both Christians, but we come from vastly different view points. We don't even celebrate the same holidays, though I think I am getting to him about that ;)
So how do you work out the disagreements?

Sarah - December 11, 2005 04:56 PM (GMT)
Hmm, not sure cos as far as I know hubby and I agree on everything but maybe you guys can do a bible study together and talk about why each of you believes what you do and discuss what scripture says about it. What are some of the things that you disagree on?

LynnMcG - December 11, 2005 06:08 PM (GMT)
We pretty much agree on everything, except Tribulation. And we can talk until we're both blue, but neither budges. It's pretty funny. I love to talk about it, but my husband insists it's pointless since we'll never know until it happens. So I guess in this case we just agree to disagree (even though I know I'm right :wink:)

I would think, just like any situation in marriage, it should be something you pray about. Is it religion you disagree on or is it theology? If you take the Word of God literally, there's not much to disagree on.


Mandy - December 11, 2005 11:33 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (LynnMcG @ Dec 12 2005, 03:08 AM)

I would think, just like any situation in marriage, it should be something you pray about. Is it religion you disagree on or is it theology? If you take the Word of God literally, there's not much to disagree on.


In my opinion, there is a lot to disagree about, because of misleading (sometimes flatly inaccurate) translations, as well as misreading due to culture differences.
In short, I am Torah-observant and he is not. At first we clashed a lot because of it, but now that he's stopped sneaking bacon grease into the food, we're good B) Mostly I was just wondering if anyone else had similar problems.
Thanks for the advice :)

clayman - December 12, 2005 02:44 PM (GMT)
I gave it a while before I responded. I don't intend this to be an argument against Torah-observance, but an alternative view.

A good friend of mine is Messianic. His family disowned him when he found Christ. He has had to put up with a lot of flak from his friends. Folks from his synagogue still hammer him to come back -- to renounce Christ.

He won't do it.

Besides finding the grace and love of Christ, besides finding salvation and the joy of the Messiah, he was really happy to read Acts 10:15 "Do not call anything impure that God has made clean." He has discovered the joys of pork and shellfish.

I understand that there were reasons God gave the food laws, and my wife is beginning to observe them simply because God must have given them for a reason. She eats her meat well done. She is backing off of pork and shellfish. She once commented that not until after Noah was man permitted to eat meat at all. I think she is headed to becoming a total vegan based on that. Enough about food.

Remember also, though, that Christ came to fulfill, not abolish the law. That is where the Spirit guides us. Some Christian traditions take "grace" too far. They are completely forgiven and no longer need to worry about sin. Other traditions completely discount "grace" and say we must live by law. The book of Romans (which we are now studying in Sunday School) tells us a lot more about grace than many of them want to know. We do not have free license to sin. We are also unbound from legalism -- from sweating every day that if we commit a sin we are hellbound.

I believe a lot of us are so busy looking at the details we miss the big picture. My motto is, "Don't get bogged down in the details!" Take, for example, the book of Revelation. Churches split over whether or not the rapture is literal or figurative; whether the rapture will occur before or after the millenial reign; whether or not the locusts with blonde hair are actually helicopter gunships. I believe we need to look at what Christ was telling the seven churches - to find our place in His kingdom - and focus on what we are supposed to do to ensure our place. The key word to Revelation is "Repent". Only those who believed on the Lord are included in "the Saints".

Prophecy's message is not destruction, it is returning to God. Jonah's message to Nineveh was "Repent or be destroyed." Nineveh repented and didn't have to worry about how they would be destroyed. Hosea's message to Israel was "Repent or be destroyed." Israel did not repent and was destroyed.

I've gone on too long. One more thing, and I'm done.

If you and your husband sit down, with a translation on which you can both agree, and study the book of Romans, you will find agreement and peace.

Mandy - December 12, 2005 03:06 PM (GMT)

Romans is the very subject of our contention :D Paul uses the word "law" in many ways. There are several verses where if someone insisted "law" means the same in every circumstance, Paul would be directly contradicting himself, sometimes in the same breath. Since he was a rabbi of some standing, a student of Gamaliel even, I doubt that is true. In that case, it helps to look at Paul's example to clarify his words, and Paul was Torah-observant both before and after he met Christ.
However, I don't want to make this a debate thread. I would love to debate the subject, but I don't know if this forum is the place really. It's such a friendly place, and while I'm sure everyone would behave with perfect civility, I don't want to chance it.
Thank you for your thoughtful reply :)




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