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Title: Incorrigible Child Laws......


rasplundjr - March 27, 2007 07:58 PM (GMT)
You've all heard me go off at length dealing with my son's attitude.....

Deb cha cha champion extrodinaire.... (And String you're the queen of internet searches and anyone else feeling froggy....) can you do me a favor and look into Indiana Incorriglble Child Laws. What does my son have to do to be considered incorrigible? What legal ramifications will this have on him, Us? What are the statutes, and where can I find them?


I'm looking myself but with 6 hours of commute, and a 10 hour work day
I often don't manage to have to search extensively....

I figure a couple more sets of eyes might help me find the info....

I hate to call the cops on my son, but it's the only recourse I have besides physically ejecting him from my house like a frisbee....

andiesmama - March 27, 2007 11:11 PM (GMT)
From LawGuru.com: (granted, the question is posted from someone in Ohio)

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incorrigible children
16 and 13 year old sons, single mom, they are rude, have no respect, refuse chores, call me names, flip me off, demand money or rides with nothing in return. what happens in the court system if file incorrigible child charges against them? I want them to realize they have to listen to me. Thanks.
Category: Juvenile Dependency
State(s), Country: OH (OH), US
Posted: 3/4/2007

Re: incorrigible children
Your problem is not uncommon unfortunately. Alot will depend on what county you are in. The law does not provide for a lot of options but the court does have the authority to order communtiy service hours, remove them from your home and place them in foster care, put them on house arrest or an electronic monitor, etc.It may give them a wake up call but it can also give them a record.



From ClarkProsecutor.org: (this is about halfway down the page)

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JUVENILES - Indiana Law generally requires that crimes committed by those under the age of eighteen (18) years be treated differently. A child under eighteen (18) years of age who commits a crime, or who is considered a truant, a runaway, or incorrigible, has committed a delinquent act, and a Delinquency Petition may be filed. All Delinquency Petitions are filed in the Juvenile Court, Clark Superior Court #1. All Delinquency Petitions are supervised by Dawn R. Elston, Deputy Prosecuting Attorney (812) 285-6264.



I'm looking for more, those are just 2 I came up with really quick..........

andiesmama - March 27, 2007 11:18 PM (GMT)
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IC 31-37-2-4
Delinquent act; habitual disobedience of parent, guardian, or custodian
    31-37-2-4 Sec. 4. A child commits a delinquent act if, before becoming eighteen (18) years of age, the child habitually disobeys the reasonable and lawful commands of the child's parent, guardian, or custodian.
As added by P.L.1-1997, SEC.20.



This was posted in the Washington County Circuit Court website (link): (it's under the section titled "Juvenile Cases" which is a little over halfway down the page)

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Pursuant to I.C. 31-30-1-1, generally, the juvenile court has exclusive jurisdiction over delinquency proceedings in which a child is alleged to be delinquent under I.C. 31-37, and which involve:

1. Offenses that would be a crime if committed by an adult except as excluded under I.C. 31-3-1.

2. Status Offenses:

a. Leaving home (I.C. 31-37-2-2),
b. Failure to Attend School (31-37-2-3),
c. Disobedience (31-37-2-4),
d. Curfew Violation (I.C. 31-37-2-5), and
e. Alcoholic Beverage Offenses under I.C. 7.1-5-7
(I.C. 31-37-2-6).



:wave: Hope that info helps you, let me know if you need anything more!!

Stringaling - March 28, 2007 10:49 AM (GMT)
I am currently reading a book about gender differences in children. Apparently if teenage boys have no outlet for their aggression, then they will misbehave and become uncontrollable. Does he have any outlet, like playing a sport or working out ? If not, perhaps you could get him involved in some sort of physical activity to help him redirect his frustrations and aggressions...

Also, this book notes that typically men who grew up with no outlet for their aggressions, and who seemed to be more peaceful as children are more violent and angry than men who got into fights as a child and played sports , and the majority of murders and rapes are committed my men who did not have a means of channelling their aggression as a child.....scary...

Okay.. That was a big sentence. It is incorrect in so many ways. I hate it when I get grammatical on my own ass..... :rollseyes: English majors...

sf49erfan - March 28, 2007 02:26 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Stringaling @ Mar 28 2007, 06:49 AM)
I am currently reading a book about gender differences in children. Apparently if teenage boys have no outlet for their aggression, then they will misbehave and become uncontrollable. Does he have any outlet, like playing a sport or working out ? If not, perhaps you could get him involved in some sort of physical activity to help him redirect his frustrations and aggressions...

Also, this book notes that typically men who grew up with no outlet for their aggressions, and who seemed to be more peaceful as children are more violent and angry than men who got into fights as a child and played sports , and the majority of murders and rapes are committed my men who did not have a means of channelling their aggression as a child.....scary...

Okay.. That was a big sentence. It is incorrect in so many ways. I hate it when I get grammatical on my own ass..... :rollseyes: English majors...

I don't know anything about the laws in Indiana, but I agree with the sports thing.

Here's a great idea: get him into a martial art. It will allow for a physical outlet and teach discipline.

Or if nothing else, send him to a military school.

sf49erfan - March 28, 2007 02:28 PM (GMT)
check this out:

http://www.culver.org/students/cma.asp

especially their camp for this summer:

http://www.culver.org/campers/uppercamps/

sf49erfan - March 28, 2007 02:29 PM (GMT)
How old is your son?

rasplundjr - March 28, 2007 05:32 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (sf49erfan @ Mar 28 2007, 08:26 AM)
I don't know anything about the laws in Indiana, but I agree with the sports thing.

He likes sports but doesnt' wanna play on an organized team- anything that actually requires practice... he immediately discounts

QUOTE (sf49erfan @ Mar 28 2007, 08:26 AM)

Here's a great idea: get him into a martial art.  It will allow for a physical outlet and teach discipline.

Tried that.... He doesnt' want to do it. Even tempted him with various martial arts let him play with swords at advanced levels, he started to get interested but that damned part about needing to actually PRACTICE killed it dead

QUOTE (sf49erfan @ Mar 28 2007, 08:26 AM)

Or if nothing else, send him to a military school.

Oh I am so tempted... Problem is Money, and My FIL who has a fairly tight contol on my wife won't let that happen.

I'm so frigging close to trying to find a gig on one of the coasts, dragging the family half way across the country so her family stops interfereing.... Oh and I hate the coasts.... I'm a midwest kinda guy and would like to stay here.... or maybe move southwest...

rasplundjr - March 28, 2007 05:36 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (sf49erfan @ Mar 28 2007, 08:29 AM)
How old is your son?

Just turned 15 Friday 3-23-2007

sf49erfan - March 28, 2007 05:45 PM (GMT)
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(sf49erfan @ Mar 28 2007, 08:26 AM)

Or if nothing else, send him to a military school.


Oh I am so tempted... Problem is Money, and My FIL who has a fairly tight contol on my wife won't let that happen.


Why not try one of the camps at that school for the summer? It would be a way to try it without the full year committment.

Or here's a new idea: send him to live with the grandfather!

seige - March 28, 2007 06:15 PM (GMT)
I know this might sound harsh but it sounds like Dad needs to be around a little more. Take an interest in something he's into. Be involved in his life. It just sounds like you are working too much brotha! For your sake and your kid's sake get a job closer to home or get home closer to your job!

CJ

sf49erfan - March 28, 2007 06:17 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (seige @ Mar 28 2007, 02:15 PM)
I know this might sound harsh but it sounds like Dad needs to be around a little more. Take an interest in something he's into. Be involved in his life. It just sounds like you are working too much brotha! For your sake and your kid's sake get a job closer to home or get home closer to your job!

CJ

Agreed!

rasplundjr - March 28, 2007 06:20 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (sf49erfan @ Mar 28 2007, 11:45 AM)
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(sf49erfan @ Mar 28 2007, 08:26 AM)

Or if nothing else, send him to a military school.


Oh I am so tempted... Problem is Money, and My FIL who has a fairly tight contol on my wife won't let that happen.


Why not try one of the camps at that school for the summer? It would be a way to try it without the full year committment.

Or here's a new idea: send him to live with the grandfather!


Actually I was just talking to my wife about trying one of the camps... maybe one of the specialty camps... he likes swords so maybe fencing..... Then I can look into fencing clubs around here and maybe get him into that as a sport....

He doesnt' want to go live with My FIL..... he does for about a week or so then he starts missing his Mom, and allegedly me....

Stringaling - March 28, 2007 06:20 PM (GMT)
You've gopt a double whammy here. First you're the "step-dad" and teenagers jof either gender hate that. Second you're never around. How can you expect the kid to respect and obey someone who just pops in to shout out orders and is gone again before too long? I definately agree with you about moving. six hours a day is ridiculous. Move your familuyl closer to your work place and also get away from greandad at the same time....Definately spend some time wiht him and let him get to know you and hopefully trust you more and maybe you can overcome his angst and bond in some way...

rasplundjr - March 28, 2007 06:25 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (seige @ Mar 28 2007, 12:15 PM)
I know this might sound harsh but it sounds like Dad needs to be around a little more. Take an interest in something he's into. Be involved in his life. It just sounds like you are working too much brotha! For your sake and your kid's sake get a job closer to home or get home closer to your job!

CJ

Working on trying to do either... just had a bankruptcy (just went through in January) sooo..... renting anyplace and trying to geta mortgage are gonna be REALLY hard until I can build my paying on time back up.....


Been looking for work closer to teh house... I'm a geek... not much call for a computer tech near me.... least not that pays enough to keep the bills at bay, and I can only barely do that.....

Misty doesnt' want to move away from her parents.... I want to move closer to where I grew up, Chicago is fairly close, it cuts about an hour and a half off my commute, and puts me fairly close to a good numebr of tech jobs...

rasplundjr - March 28, 2007 06:29 PM (GMT)
Just a couple weeks ago I let him put up his dart board in his room.

We play darts a couple times a week, he wants to go outside and duel witht eh foam weapons, but by the time I get home I'm just too tired for that... and when I agreet o do it on the weekends, he gets mad about something and doesnt' want to do it anymore.....

Stringaling - March 28, 2007 06:31 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (rasplundjr @ Mar 28 2007, 12:29 PM)
Just a couple weeks ago I let him put up his dart board in his room.

We play darts a couple times a week, he wants to go outside and duel witht eh foam weapons, but by the time I get home I'm just too tired for that... and when I agreet o do it on the weekends, he gets mad about something and doesnt' want to do it anymore.....

That is a good step... Maybe occasionally make the sacrifice to duel with him anyway. Lets him know that you care even though you are tired.

Golfingmom - March 28, 2007 06:48 PM (GMT)
Call Maury Povich.

Stringaling - March 28, 2007 07:46 PM (GMT)
:smack:

rasplundjr - March 28, 2007 09:42 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Stringaling @ Mar 28 2007, 12:31 PM)
QUOTE (rasplundjr @ Mar 28 2007, 12:29 PM)
Just a couple weeks ago I let him put up his dart board in his room.

We play darts a couple times a week, he wants to go outside and duel witht eh foam weapons, but by the time I get home I'm just too tired for that...  and when I agreet o do it on the weekends, he gets mad about something and doesnt' want to do it anymore.....

That is a good step... Maybe occasionally make the sacrifice to duel with him anyway. Lets him know that you care even though you are tired.

Noooooo.....

Me tired and dueling.... BAD BAD BAD Idea.... I can barely rememebr to pull my swings when I'm not tired and get causght up inthe moment.... Even witht eh padding on the weapons I could easily break his nose and possible his neck if I'm not at least 85% on my game.....

Too risky to do it tired. It's a saftey factor, not a I don't want to do it factor....

I'd love to pound the hell out of something when I get home after dealing with users all day.... Tired, and frustrated are not the best times to take up a weapon against a kid that's gonna trash talk and get mouthy.....


Stringaling - March 28, 2007 10:12 PM (GMT)
hmmm...you like comic books, right?? Share that with him, see if he is interested...

rasplundjr - March 29, 2007 04:00 PM (GMT)
He get's interested for a couple days then just peters out.... I've told him he's welcome to look at my collection as long as he respects them and asks before and puts them back as soon as he's done....

When we get som more cash I'll see if I can find a couple modern / up to date titles that we'll both like and start picking them up again....

rasplundjr - March 29, 2007 04:03 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (rasplundjr @ Mar 28 2007, 03:42 PM)
Noooooo.....

Me tired and dueling.... BAD BAD BAD Idea.... I can barely rememebr to pull my swings when I'm not tired and get causght up inthe moment.... Even witht eh padding on the weapons I could easily break his nose and possible his neck if I'm not at least 85% on my game.....

Too risky to do it tired. It's a saftey factor, not a I don't want to do it factor....

I'd love to pound the hell out of something when I get home after dealing with users all day.... Tired, and frustrated are not the best times to take up a weapon against a kid that's gonna trash talk and get mouthy.....

I also make sure he asks before I crack open a beer... I take dueling as serious as I do driving, alcohol does not mix with it at all... Or anything that alters mental states..... (lack of sleep, head injury.... etc...)




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