Title: Hackers Attack Key Net Traffic Computers
GutterRat - February 7, 2007 06:49 PM (GMT)
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Hackers briefly overwhelmed at least three of the 13 computers that help manage global computer traffic Tuesday in one of the most significant attacks against the Internet since 2002.
Experts said the unusually powerful attacks lasted as long as 12 hours but passed largely unnoticed by most computer users, a testament to the resiliency of the Internet. Behind the scenes, computer scientists worldwide raced to cope with enormous volumes of data that threatened to saturate some of the Internet's most vital pipelines.
he motive for the attacks was unclear, said Duane Wessels, a researcher at the Cooperative Association for Internet Data Analysis at the San Diego Supercomputing Center. "Maybe to show off or just be disruptive; it doesn't seem to be extortion or anything like that," Wessels said.
Other experts said the hackers appeared to disguise their origin, but vast amounts of rogue data in the attacks were traced to South Korea.
The attacks appeared to target UltraDNS, the company that operates servers managing traffic for Web sites ending in "org" and some other suffixes, experts said. Officials with NeuStar Inc., which owns UltraDNS, confirmed only that it had observed an unusual increase in traffic.
Among the targeted "root" servers that manage global Internet traffic were ones operated by the Defense Department and the Internet's primary oversight body.
"There was what appears to be some form of attack during the night hours here in California and into the morning," said John Crain, chief technical officer for the Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers. He said the attack was continuing and so was the hunt for its origin.
"I don't think anybody has the full picture," Crain said. "We're looking at the data."
Crain said Tuesday's attack was less serious than attacks against the same 13 "root" servers in October 2002 because technology innovations in recent years have increasingly distributed their workloads to other computers around the globe. |
Hmmm....kinda scary....
clayman - February 7, 2007 06:53 PM (GMT)
that would explain it!
I was trying to download a new Fedora Core (Linux) and it was taking up to 12 hours for each CD ISO. Then they were corrupted when I finally got them. I downloaded all six ISOs last night in under six hours and they hashed fine.
:ticked: friggin' CDs are corrupt, but the ISOs hashed fine.
rasplundjr - February 7, 2007 07:44 PM (GMT)
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Hackers briefly overwhelmed at least three of the 13 computers that help manage global computer traffic Tuesday in one of the most significant attacks against the Internet since 2002.
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Slight Problem with this statement.. makes me think the author has no frigging clue what they were talking about.
one of the most significant attacks against the Internet
well let's think about this if the attack was AGAINST the internet they'd shut down their ability to attack if such an atack was even possible.
Bout the only way to ATTACK THE INTERNET would be a global EMP that would also nuke all computers that aren't ruggedized. And basically 90% of "Modern" communication forms.
Sorry that's a pet peeve of mine it's not an attack agaisnt the internet it's an attack utilizing the internet.....
oh hey look at that.... I keep tripping over those damned :soapbox:
clayman - February 7, 2007 08:02 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (rasplundjr @ Feb 7 2007, 01:44 PM) |
| QUOTE | Hackers briefly overwhelmed at least three of the 13 computers that help manage global computer traffic Tuesday in one of the most significant attacks against the Internet since 2002.
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Slight Problem with this statement.. makes me think the author has no frigging clue what they were talking about.
one of the most significant attacks against the Internet
well let's think about this if the attack was AGAINST the internet they'd shut down their ability to attack if such an atack was even possible.
Bout the only way to ATTACK THE INTERNET would be a global EMP that would also nuke all computers that aren't ruggedized. And basically 90% of "Modern" communication forms.
Sorry that's a pet peeve of mine it's not an attack agaisnt the internet it's an attack utilizing the internet.....
oh hey look at that.... I keep tripping over those damned :soapbox:
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Technically speaking, you're correct. Unless you consider that each of us who uses the internet are the internet.
Yes, I realize that's akin to saying that each of us that uses phones are phones (and seeing some of these goofballs in their cars with those things surgically attached to their ears, maybe that's not far from the truth...). But, in a manner of speaking, the internet would not function if Algore hadn't invented it, right? Oh, wait - wrong movie. In a manner of speaking, the internet would not even exist if it were not for each of our computers that use, host and otherwise converse via the giant internetwork that was developed in the mid-60s by some bored sysadmins at the Defense Advanced Research Projects Administration.
So, in a manner of speaking, a bomb that's designed to take out the users of a system, takes out the system. Without the users of the system, the system's non-existent.
In other words, that statement is not far from being accurate.
Golfingmom - February 7, 2007 08:31 PM (GMT)
andiesmama - February 7, 2007 08:52 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Golfingmom @ Feb 7 2007, 03:31 PM) |
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:agree:
LynnMcG - February 7, 2007 08:55 PM (GMT)
Honey - February 7, 2007 08:55 PM (GMT)
I've got better things to do than try to figure out the life and cycle of the internet....:snooze:
GutterRat - February 7, 2007 09:44 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Honey @ Feb 7 2007, 02:55 PM) |
| I've got better things to do than try to figure out the life and cycle of the internet....:snooze: |
Yet...you can't live without it!! You are addicted!! :bolt:
clayman - February 7, 2007 09:58 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Honey @ Feb 7 2007, 02:55 PM) |
| I've got better things to do than try to figure out the life and cycle of the internet....:snooze: |
| QUOTE (LynnMcG @ Feb 7 2007, 02:55 PM) |
Not a clue.
Moving on... |
| QUOTE (andiesmama @ Feb 7 2007, 02:52 PM) |
| QUOTE (Golfingmom @ Feb 7 2007, 03:31 PM) | | :rollseyes: :snooze: |
:agree:
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OK - so it's not bad enough y'all come uninvited into the men's locker room while we're showering and what-not, now y'all are ruining a perfectly good geek conversation!
Geeks Unite Yonder Somewhere (guys) - let's crash the skin thread. Or the PMS thread. Or something decidedly feminine.
rasplundjr - February 7, 2007 10:14 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (clayman @ Feb 7 2007, 02:02 PM) |
| QUOTE (rasplundjr @ Feb 7 2007, 01:44 PM) | | QUOTE | Hackers briefly overwhelmed at least three of the 13 computers that help manage global computer traffic Tuesday in one of the most significant attacks against the Internet since 2002.
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Slight Problem with this statement.. makes me think the author has no frigging clue what they were talking about.
one of the most significant attacks against the Internet
well let's think about this if the attack was AGAINST the internet they'd shut down their ability to attack if such an atack was even possible.
Bout the only way to ATTACK THE INTERNET would be a global EMP that would also nuke all computers that aren't ruggedized. And basically 90% of "Modern" communication forms.
Sorry that's a pet peeve of mine it's not an attack agaisnt the internet it's an attack utilizing the internet.....
oh hey look at that.... I keep tripping over those damned :soapbox:
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Technically speaking, you're correct. Unless you consider that each of us who uses the internet are the internet.
Yes, I realize that's akin to saying that each of us that uses phones are phones (and seeing some of these goofballs in their cars with those things surgically attached to their ears, maybe that's not far from the truth...). But, in a manner of speaking, the internet would not function if Algore hadn't invented it, right? Oh, wait - wrong movie. In a manner of speaking, the internet would not even exist if it were not for each of our computers that use, host and otherwise converse via the giant internetwork that was developed in the mid-60s by some bored sysadmins at the Defense Advanced Research Projects Administration.
So, in a manner of speaking, a bomb that's designed to take out the users of a system, takes out the system. Without the users of the system, the system's non-existent.
In other words, that statement is not far from being accurate.
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But until you take out the communications grid that underlays everything the internet is still there....
This is almost schroedinger's (prolly spelled wrong) cat.
But as long as two computers are out thre working outside a LAN and communicating the Internet will still exist.
As long as all the Satelites and Fiber trunks (among other delivery media) still exist and work the internet is there....
I don't think me getting kicked inthe nuts is an attack on America (Though I'd like the Marines to go after their ass if I did get kicked inthe nuts) so can you really say that the attack of one system or even 100 systems could be considered an attack ont he internet unless it targeted the actual communications subframe that is responsible for the transit of data.
:popcorn: Geek Debate.... this is frigging cool.....
Golfingmom - February 7, 2007 10:17 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (rasplundjr @ Feb 7 2007, 04:14 PM) |
:popcorn: Geek Debate.... this is frigging cool..... |
:nails: :rollseyes: :faint:
andiesmama - February 7, 2007 10:42 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Golfingmom @ Feb 7 2007, 05:17 PM) |
| QUOTE (rasplundjr @ Feb 7 2007, 04:14 PM) |
:popcorn: Geek Debate.... this is frigging cool..... |
:nails: :rollseyes: :faint:
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:wine: :bath: :nails: :P
squatpuke - February 7, 2007 10:44 PM (GMT)
I agree with the Rasp man.
(Don't forget the Satillites big guy.)
Thank goodness for routing protocols.
clayman - February 8, 2007 03:54 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (rasplundjr @ Feb 7 2007, 04:14 PM) |
| QUOTE (clayman @ Feb 7 2007, 02:02 PM) | | QUOTE (rasplundjr @ Feb 7 2007, 01:44 PM) | | QUOTE | Hackers briefly overwhelmed at least three of the 13 computers that help manage global computer traffic Tuesday in one of the most significant attacks against the Internet since 2002.
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Slight Problem with this statement.. makes me think the author has no frigging clue what they were talking about.
one of the most significant attacks against the Internet
well let's think about this if the attack was AGAINST the internet they'd shut down their ability to attack if such an atack was even possible.
Bout the only way to ATTACK THE INTERNET would be a global EMP that would also nuke all computers that aren't ruggedized. And basically 90% of "Modern" communication forms.
Sorry that's a pet peeve of mine it's not an attack agaisnt the internet it's an attack utilizing the internet.....
oh hey look at that.... I keep tripping over those damned :soapbox:
|
Technically speaking, you're correct. Unless you consider that each of us who uses the internet are the internet.
Yes, I realize that's akin to saying that each of us that uses phones are phones (and seeing some of these goofballs in their cars with those things surgically attached to their ears, maybe that's not far from the truth...). But, in a manner of speaking, the internet would not function if Algore hadn't invented it, right? Oh, wait - wrong movie. In a manner of speaking, the internet would not even exist if it were not for each of our computers that use, host and otherwise converse via the giant internetwork that was developed in the mid-60s by some bored sysadmins at the Defense Advanced Research Projects Administration.
So, in a manner of speaking, a bomb that's designed to take out the users of a system, takes out the system. Without the users of the system, the system's non-existent.
In other words, that statement is not far from being accurate.
|
But until you take out the communications grid that underlays everything the internet is still there....
This is almost schroedinger's (prolly spelled wrong) cat.
But as long as two computers are out thre working outside a LAN and communicating the Internet will still exist.
As long as all the Satelites and Fiber trunks (among other delivery media) still exist and work the internet is there....
I don't think me getting kicked inthe nuts is an attack on America (Though I'd like the Marines to go after their ass if I did get kicked inthe nuts) so can you really say that the attack of one system or even 100 systems could be considered an attack ont he internet unless it targeted the actual communications subframe that is responsible for the transit of data.
:popcorn: Geek Debate.... this is frigging cool.....
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Hmmm. Interesting point.
I think I'll have to concede on this one.
But, dammit, it still sounds like a good excuse for none of the mirrors delivering Fedora Core 6 properly...
rasplundjr - February 8, 2007 04:12 PM (GMT)
Well the load could have hashed out the paths you were using to DL fedora.... that would account for the long DL and corrupted Data.... and I can see that happening.... You were just DLing from the wrong servers at the wrong time and got crossed up in the mire that was the whole "Hacking" (I still refuse to call it Hacking without quotes the original Hackers were people pioneering the field they pushed the boundaries.... these "Hackers" are actually Crackers / Cyberpunks but I digress.....) debacle went down....