Title: Da Vinci's The Last Supper
sf49erfan - May 16, 2006 01:42 PM (GMT)
In The Da Vinci Code author Dan Brown claims that art critics believe that Da Vinci included Mary Magdalene in his Last Supper painting. One of the figures does look extremely feminine.
I don't want to debate The Da Vinci Code, but I'll ask this question. If Leonardo did put Mary in the scene instead of one of "the 12," who did he leave out?
My first thought was that he excluded Judas, but then I realized that the historical record clearly places him at the table.
GutterRat - May 16, 2006 01:55 PM (GMT)
The reason Brown says Mary was in the picture is because - according to Brown - Mary is the center not Jesus. According to Brown - when Jesus died Mary was pregnant with his Child. She fled to Paris to give birth to the child.
If you look at the painting in question - all the figures look feminine. Any of them could be a woman.
I don't think Divinci left anyone out except....Mary.
gracefaith - May 16, 2006 02:54 PM (GMT)
Oh, good grief, it's not Mary, it's John. He was traditionally the youngest and the Scriptures say that he's the one that sat closest to Christ at the Last Supper.
LynnMcG - May 16, 2006 04:49 PM (GMT)
It's funny how you can convince yourself of just about anything if you think about it long enough.
Does Dan Brown believe his book is non-fiction? Or did he write it as something purely entertainment?
gracefaith - May 16, 2006 05:54 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (LynnMcG @ May 16 2006, 10:49 AM) |
It's funny how you can convince yourself of just about anything if you think about it long enough.
Does Dan Brown believe his book is non-fiction? Or did he write it as something purely entertainment? |
I think this was no more than a lucrative opportunity that came his way. What better way to make a buck than the write a scandalous novel about a taboo subject based on someone else's research? Other writers don't even respect him.
GutterRat - May 16, 2006 08:45 PM (GMT)
Dan Brown has been quote as saying he does believe what is in the book.
Honey - May 16, 2006 08:52 PM (GMT)
Dan Brown sounds like a some whacked out psycho. :screwy:
Stringaling - May 17, 2006 12:26 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Lena @ May 16 2006, 02:52 PM) |
| Dan Brown sounds like a some whacked out psycho. :screwy: |
To most of the world, we Christians sound like freaked out wackos.. A guy with no dad, grows up and claims to be God, raises people from the dead, heals ternminally ill people, dies, comes back to life....To non-Christians Brown's story is probably easier to believe.....
clayman - May 17, 2006 12:30 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Stringaling @ May 17 2006, 06:26 AM) |
| QUOTE (Lena @ May 16 2006, 02:52 PM) | | Dan Brown sounds like a some whacked out psycho. :screwy: |
To most of the world, we Christians sound like freaked out wackos.. A guy with no dad, grows up and claims to be God, raises people from the dead, heals ternminally ill people, dies, comes back to life....To non-Christians Brown's story is probably easier to believe.....
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That's a good point. That's a really good point.
I've been told that Christianity is equal to mythology. After all, who believes in gods nowadays, anyway?
sf49erfan - May 17, 2006 01:23 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (LynnMcG @ May 16 2006, 10:49 AM) |
It's funny how you can convince yourself of just about anything if you think about it long enough. |
I think it is entirely possible that Da Vinci put someone other than the twelve disciples in his painting.
That doesn't change the facts of the story in the Bible, but it is a painting and not a photograph so he could have put anyone he wanted in the picture (even himself).
Stringaling - May 17, 2006 01:47 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (sf49erfan @ May 17 2006, 07:23 AM) |
| but it is a painting and not a photograph |
I agree.
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| Brown asserts that the Apostle John in Leonardo Da Vinci’s Last Supper is actually Mary Magdalene, since he is clean-shaven and looks feminine. Da Vinci’s Last Supper is not an icon or a vehicle for conveying the faith; it is art. Da Vinci was not a preacher, apostle, teacher or saint. John does look like a woman in Da Vinci’s Last Supper, but it is Da Vinci’s art, and he was not a mainstream Christian. |
This article points out several fallicies in Brown's book:
The DaVinci Code Movie (Not Based on a True Story)
clayman - May 17, 2006 02:34 PM (GMT)
:lol:
yeah - and I've seen plenty of spoofs of that painting with celebrities there...
Addicted2~Jesus - May 17, 2006 02:55 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Stringaling @ May 17 2006, 06:26 AM) |
| A guy with no dad, |
I don't understand this comment, could you explain some please?
Stringaling - May 17, 2006 03:16 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Addicted2~Jesus @ May 17 2006, 08:55 AM) |
| QUOTE (Stringaling @ May 17 2006, 06:26 AM) | | A guy with no dad, |
I don't understand this comment, could you explain some please?
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Mary claimed to be pregnant by no man~ in other words the baby she carried did not have a human father-no dad